What Manner Of Men Were These?

By Bob Koford

On January 22, 1946, President Truman created the Central Intelligence Group, which would be under the National Intelligence Authority. The CIG was the forerunner of the Central Intelligence Agency. It came to be because the President had felt that he “was not receiving properly coordinated intelligence reports."

On June 26th, 1947, the National Intelligence Authority held its tenth meeting. In attendance were: Secretary of State George Marshall “in the chair”, Secretary of War Robert Patterson, Secretary of the Navy James Forrestal, Fleet Admiral William Leahy, who was acting as the personal Representative of the President, and Rear Admiral R. H. Hillenkoetter, Director of Central Intelligence. Also present at the meeting were the Assistant Secretary of War Howard Peterson, Under Secretary of the Navy John Sullivan, Mr. William Eddy of the State Department, Major General S, J. Chamberlin U.S. Army, Rear Admiral Thomas Inglis, United States Navy, Rear Admiral E. T. Wooldridge, United States Navy, and Mr. Donald Edgar of the Central Intelligence Group. The Secretary of the NSC was Mr. J. S. Earman.

The meeting took place in room 5142 in the New State Department building, at 10:30 A.M.

The purpose of the meeting was to discuss the authority that had been granted to the Director of Central Intelligence, by the NIA, at the ninth meeting. Both Admiral Hillenkoetter, and Navy Secretary Forrestal were of the opinion that the DCI had been granted too much power, and they believed it should be toned down.

After Secretary Marshall asked Admiral Hillenkoetter to explain the situation, Hillenkoetter stated that “at the present time the Director of Central Intelligence did not need this authority and he felt that its recission (sic) would create a better feeling with the member Intelligence Advisory Board agencies. However, he would be the first to request its reinstatement if ever needed.”

Secretary Patterson agreed. Admiral Leahy questioned it. Under Secretary of the Navy asked Hillenkoetter “if he thought the withdrawal of the authority in question would result in better cooperation between the member IAB agencies. Admiral Hillkoetter replied that in his opinion this was correct.”

A very telling response, in my opinion, came from the future Secretary of Defense (SECDEF), Forrestal. He “stated the authority granted the Director of Central Intelligence to operate within the jurisdiction as the agent for the Secretaries of State, War and Navy and to issue directives in their names made the CIG appear as a Gestapo and caused unnecessary friction.”

General Chamerlin agreed that Admiral Hillenkoetter was correct to question such authority. When Secretary Marshall queried Hillenkoetter whether-or-not this reduction of authority would “adversely affect the status of CIG and its relationship with the agencies. Admiral Hillenkoetter replied that on the contrary he expected it would improve the relationship.”

Though other items of interest were discussed at this meeting, this writer thought it was important to note both Secretary Forrestal’s and Admiral Hillenkoetter’s attitude. Far from a conspiracy, they acted with the best of intentions toward the American public, and seemed honest in their approach to this new National Security system.

See, at the Central Intelligence FOIA Electronic Reading Room: “NIA_meeting_26_Jun_47.pdf”

Did a UFOB Crash Story Leak Due to the Absence of the DDCIA?

Part One
By: Bob Koford, April 9, 2013


It is my contention, based on what I have seen, and published on this blog, so far, that the Deputy Director of the CIA was in charge of keeping tabs on the UFOB problem for the National Security Establishment.

From January 20, 1947, through March of 1949, the DDCIA was Army Brigadier General, Edwin Kennedy Wright, DCI Admiral Roscoe Hillenkoetter’s right-hand-man. The two were close enough that they often wrote to each other using their nicknames: Hillenkoetter’s was “Hilley” and General Wright’s was “Pinkie”

Between March 1949, and October, 1950, General Wright’s post was vacant. During that time his post was covered by Executives to the DCIA, namely: Captain Walter C. Ford, United States Navy (USN), acting until June 1, 1949, and then by Captain Clarence L. Winecoff, (USN) who served there until June 7, 1950. From then, until October 7, 1950, Lyle T. Shannon acted as temporary DDCIA*.

*Central Intelligence Agency’s Biographical information on Edwin K. Wright

It was within this window (of opportunity?) of time that one of the most famous “saucer crash” stories was born. No, I am not referring to the so called Roswell Crash.

Beginning in late October, 1949, a well known Science Fiction author was secretly given some Earth-shaking information. He presented, at least some, of this information in his next article, published in Author Rapp’s Science Fiction Fanzine, Spacewarp.  Mr. Conner began that particular piece with this explanation:

“(Note: The statements made in the following article are distinctly mine and even I don't believe them. r-tRapp is not to be held responsible for anything I have reported. In writing this article, I am aware that I am doing something I can't condone ... that is, I am violating a confidence. For that reason, no names nor explanations, other than those appearing here can be given. However, upon receipt of a self-addressed, stamped envelope, I will supply the name of "The Famous Scientist" and the name of my friend.)”
see: http://fanac.org/fanzines/Spacewarp/Spacewarp34-04.html *

[ *Data entry by Judy Bemis]

Mr. Conner then makes the, seemingly, outlandish claim that “On or about the date of Oct. 4, 1949, a spacecraft, or an aircraft totally alien to earth, landed in Mexico!”

He wrote: "Sources: Names cannot now be given. Part comes from a prominent business man. It came to him from a personal friend, a Dr. 'S' who in turn is said to have received it from a Dr. 'W' with whom he was associated in scientific work. Dr. W himself saw the fallen disc. Final verification will be attempted soon." ((Conner's note: If I get anything on this final verification, I'll tell WARP about it.)) "Here is Dr. W's story: About October 4 a disc dropped in a sparsely settled section of level country in Mexico. It was seen to fall by a Mexican herder who notified the authorities, and 11 scientific men were taken to investigate, including Dr. W.”

Barely a week later, on January 6, 1950, two more articles appeared in more mainstream Newspapers, namely, the Kansas City Star, and the Wyandotte Echo.

Revisions had been made by the time this version of the story was to emerge in these two other publications. Now the disk had fallen in New Mexico, not Mexico, and instead of the Name “Coulter” associated with the story in any way, the name was changed…at least two more times. The definitive tale was later published by Frank Scully, in 1950, and is now known by everyone as the “Aztec Crash.”

The original tale, concerning Mexico, not New Mexico, was then forgotten by all.

Here ends Part One of “the story,” but there is much, much, more information to come.

Until then, Dear Readers, stay tuned.

Looking at Hillenkoetter's Diary - Part One

By: Bob Koford


Thanks to recent releases, by the CIA, Admiral Hillenkoetter's diary is available from their FOIA site. It wasn't expected that any earthshaking revelations would occur, but there are interesting items that I have seen -already.

As it has been discussed on this blog previously, an errant V-2 rocket impacted in Juarez, Mexico on May 29th, 1947. For "Hilley's" diary entry, on that date, there is a brief, partially redacted paragraph:

"THURSDAY, 29 MAY 1947

[ redacted ] inquired about [ redacted ] MC. Captain Helmick had telephoned to state that [ redacted ] would report to CNO in July. [ redacted ] was informed that the Director was interested in this case."

As it is possible there is another Helmick (besides Col. Paul Helmick, CO of Alamogordo Army Airfield correction-4/14/13) this will be checked. It is my opinion, though, that the reference to "Captain" Helmick was indeed to the same man. Of course this incident would be of interest, but it might be important to note its existence in "Hilley's" diary.

As the "Roswell" event occured around the 4th of July weekend, and the famous Press Meeting took place on the 8th, this time period has been checked. One item of interest is seen in the

"MINUTES OF STAFF MEETING
           July 8, 1947
               9:00 AM

DIRECTOR...The Director opened the meeting by stating that General Wright was away on a trip."

This "General" Wright was Brig. General Edwin K. Wright, who was Deputy Director of the Central Intelligence Agency at the time (20 January-March, 1949) . According to other available documents, he had left on July 4th, "...for the West coast."  So far it is unknown if it was a pre-arranged trip, or if it had something to do with all of the "Flying Saucer" reports coming in from the West.

This writer will continue to check all angles, time permitting.

Further down the page there is this entry: "P & A has recommended several sites for monitoring stations."

Readers of his blog might recall another "assumed to be" errant rocket impact in Mexico, that reportedly occurred on October 12, 1947. I am currently reviewing for this date, and will report as soon as anything of value appears.

That's it for now.

NSCID12: Can They Tell Us? -new added Link-





http://www.foia.cia.gov/cgi.asp

I am very grateful to the Central Intelligence Agency for making these historic documents available to us. Some of them seem to bolster certain items of my own interest, sure, but something stands out to me, and that is the deep commitment being made by all of these silent movers of policy, to only go as far as they needed to. It was an invasive program, by creation, and it was called "National Security." Yet, by reason of taking law, and lawful procedures into account, as much as it seemed possible, they forged the National Security backbone of -- really- the free world.

To read these two documents with the clarity that you might desire, I suggest visiting their site to get a copy for yourselves. Just search, or look for NSCID12.

Two things which stand out to me are:

1.They might provide a possible, partial explanation of the so called "cover-up" attitude, with respects to some of the "UFO" information

2. The date of publication of these two documents [January 6, 1950] coincides with the Wilkie Conner/Wyandotte Echo/Kansas City Star/Aztec Incident roller coaster ride [more on this to come see at FANAC: Spacewarp34-04]

  

 

Musing About October, 1947

Although the historical record seems to indicate that there just couldn't be any unrecorded rocket tests that may account for the October 12, 1947 "impact" I still have my doubts. Here are my reasons:

1. The Army had a secret group at White Sands doing work that the now emerging Air Force wanted information about, according to Air Force historical material

see: http://bobkoford.blogspot.com/2009/10/split-between-army-and-air-force-and.html

2. the Army is the only group that did not argue against the CIG report on the dangers of Communism in Latin America, whereas both the Navy and State Departments did not agree with its premise

3. the eyewitnesses to the October event described an impact, via the plume of black smoke rising in the distance. In fact it sounded almost identical to the May incident, the Mexican military agreed, and was searching for the site (see previous article on Mexican impact on this blog)

4. Communist agents were thought to be active in Mexican regions, as per the Sinarquista * group, and  several Mexican farmers had been murdered after they showed support for the US led team sent to eradicate Hoof and Mouth disease [Note: somewhat difficult to read, but it is legible]

* see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvador_Abascal

5. Hoof and Mouth disease was on the list of potential USSR sponsored BW threats*

(*see for example:

Top Secret - Special Estimate- Soviet Capabilities For A surprise Attack On The Continental United States Before July 1952, Published 15 September 1951 by the Central Intelligence Agency, under heading: "BW Attack Against Livestock...32. In a clandestine attack against animals, foot and mouth disease constitutes the most serious threat to this country. The disease is highly contagious, and there is a relatively long period during which an animal with this disease is capable of infecting other animals before symptoms become apparent to anyone but an expert. Individual herds could easily be attacked, but more widespread dissemination could be initiated by infecting animals in "feeder" stockyards...")

Conclusion:

if the Soviets were behind a Hoof and Mouth outbreak they wouldn't have wanted the farmers to participate in its eradication, hence the murdered farmers in September, 1947. A "rogue" army group, at White Sands, may have been responsible for both of the "errant" rocket accidents, although the reasons the May, "Juarez" rocket miss hap occurred had been provided for by the US military (i.e., malfunction)

Worse still would be a scenario of a "Communist Cell" at White Sands attempting to use these "mishaps" to fuel anti-American sentiment, in which case it would indeed need to be covered up.

These are just my ideas, some far fetched, but I am finding it more, and more difficult to believe that all rocket tests had been documented, and accounted for.

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On the other hand,..if this incident proved to be more exotic, then these two documents are also interesting, if only for their timing, and the author. They were drawn up by Rear Admiral Roscoe Hillenkoetter on the 30th. They finalize that the JRDB, Couter Espionage and Los Alamos would be under the direction of the CIA.  

            

Another Mexico Impact Update?

I am currently reading documents aquired from the CIA's FOIA Electronic Reading Room that may relate to the October 12, 1947 incident. If I can get my act together in time I will post them, with my comments this evening --otherwise it will be up ASAP.

Happy New Year to all, and thank you for your patience.

/Bob

Would we share?

If Roswell, or any other recovered object, represents an event outside the norm, even an ET event, then a couple of questions come into focus:

1. What other country, or entity, might we have shared some of the information and/or technology with, which we acquired as a result of this event? If we did share, why, and with whom?

     1(a) What of the possible leaking of this material ( as opposed to  the sharing of it?)

There should be a physical imprint on history.

There is an array of the data pertaining to this subject, which supports the theory of leakage. It supports a tragic story of selfless devotion, and jealous rivalry gone amuck. It shows a possible link to the current situation we find ourselves in. It begins in 1947, and spikes in 1949. It rears its ugly head again in 1963.